Scott Grildrig is a prominent author of “giantess fetish” fiction who has been active within size kink community spaces since the late 1980s, during which time the only way of finding niche kink art or literature, or of seeking community with others who shared an uncommon erotic affinity, was through print media: in the case of giantess kinksters, through tangentially relevant pornographic magazines targeting a much broader audience, such as iconic fetish magazine Leg Show, or through smaller DIY publications such as Giantess, originally published in 1988. One of the earliest size content creators to emerge on the early Internet, in July 1993 Grildrig published a short story called Janice in the City — a simple “giantess rampage” story about a woman inexplicably growing to skyscraper-size and destroying swathes of a city loosely based on Los Angeles — to the USENET board alt.sex.stories in response to a fellow user’s request for erotic literature featuring giant women. One of the absolute progenitors of size kink fiction as we know it today, over the thirty-plus years since Janice in the City’s initial release Grildrig has consistently been one of the most prolific and well-known creators of kinky giantess fiction, establishing several of the signature styles and literary tropes commonplace within modern size literature, and comedically subverting them in turn.
Grildrig has collaborated with several other artists and writers within the size community, providing literary accompaniments for their visual art projects, or on occasion collaborating on stories. Having been present within size community space through several different shifts from online platform to online platform — from the aforementioned alt.sex.stories, to the IRC chatroom #!!giantess, to niche online forums such as GiantessCity and larger, more mainstream social media and art-sharing websites such as DeviantArt, Discord and Twitter more recently — his knowledge and personal experience of size community space and its evolution is invaluable to constructing an understanding of what this community is, and how it emerged in the first place. Stories such as IRC URC, published in 1997 and featuring actual users of #!!giantess as characters, and characters such as “Kathy the Giantess Wife” and “Mitzi the Ditz” (inspired by pre-Internet giantess model Kathy Castro, and by a character created by early-1990s size artist Cat, respectively) serve to document a time period in the size community’s early history that has sadly otherwise gone unarchived.
A full list of Grildrig’s size stories can be found on his DeviantArt page here.
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Taking place over three and a half hours on Saturday 24th August 2024, this recorded conversation was the second in this series to be conducted via text-based Discord DMs, as opposed to over Zoom. Below is a full, unedited transcript of our exchange.
TRANSCRIPT
Grildrig — Saturday 24th August 2024 at 10:59
Howdy. I’m on anytime you’re on. ^^
Abigail is Nancy — Saturday 24th August 2024 at 11:03
Hey! I'm here! I'm just setting a couple of things up.
My computer's taking an age to set up, and I just wanted to make sure I had the footnotes to Fourth Wall tiled on one side of my desktop, as there's quite a few things I thought would be useful for me to have on hand in there.
Grildrig — Saturday 24th August 2024 at 11:04
I'm in no rush ^^ I'm doing some browsing. When you're ready give me a poke
Abigail is Nancy — Saturday 24th August 2024 at 11:05
No, I'm pretty much good now if you are!
Grildrig — Saturday 24th August 2024 at 11:05
I am!
Abigail is Nancy — Saturday 24th August 2024 at 11:06
Just to let you know how these things usually work: I usually budget for between 1.5-2 hours to do these Discord chats. I will probably ask a few actual questions throughout the course of our conversation, but I will try and keep things very loose as I'm interested in hearing your voice and in where this exchange between us organically goes.
Grildrig — Saturday 24th August 2024 at 11:07
Sounds good. I can happily blither on about anything
Abigail is Nancy — Saturday 24th August 2024 at 11:10
To kick things off, though, I'm going to ask the same basic icebreaker questions I ask everyone I do these recorded conversations/DM exchanges. I know we're going back a long way here, but I'd like to know when you first became aware of the fact that you had an obsession or kink surrounding giantess fantasies, and when you first became aware that there were other people who felt the same way out there. I usually ask folks "when you first became aware of the size community," but as I know we're going back to the 1980s/early '90s here, I'm not entirely certain there would have been a "community" to really speak of yet!
Grildrig — Saturday 24th August 2024 at 11:15
Gotta go back further than that... >.> ...early in my life they figured out how to do size change stuff for TV shows. And, of course, there were movies. So I saw Land of the Giants, an episode (I believe) of the Avengers with a scene that hit me hard, Ultraman, Godzilla. I remember the vore scene in War of the Colossal Beast. I remember the scene with the hypodermic needle in The Amazing Colossal Man. Near as I can tell, the feelings have been with me since I can remember having feelings. But I used to focus on big critters (I might have gone the furry path, if there had been one back then). Puberty slapped my size interest in the direction of girls. Things took off when I realized I could write and draw (badly) about my feelings. It wasn't until years later that I discovered anybody else thought this kind of thing was fun.
Abigail is Nancy — Saturday 24th August 2024 at 11:17
I did remember from back in my DeviantArt lurker days seeing you had a small collection of fur-based stories. They were never particularly my thing, so I maybe neglected them back then and sadly didn't have a moment to fully explore them further.
Grildrig — Saturday 24th August 2024 at 11:18
You should check some out. I especially recommend "Blue Sky Green"
(because it's a genuine story with real characters)
Abigail is Nancy — Saturday 24th August 2024 at 11:19
Do you remember when you started writing and drawing anything related to size or GTS content? You do remark in the notes for one of the Janice stories that Janice in the City was only the first story you published, and not the first thing you ever wrote featuring giantess characters or size dynamics.
(I will go back and check out some of the fur stories after this!)
Grildrig — Saturday 24th August 2024 at 11:22
Oh yeah. Like I said -- puberty. My first creative efforts were done in the mid-70s. The drawings were horrible (I realize this even then). The stories (one or two pages at most, usually) were written on a Royal typewriter.. Within six months I was doing a couple drawings and at least one story a day, and kept that up to the late 80's when I got my first real job. It's no hyperbole to say I wrote and drew thousands of things before I got to Janice.
Abigail is Nancy — Saturday 24th August 2024 at 11:25
You said in particular that Janice was one of a huge number of stories that emerged from a singular frantic period of creativity in 1993. I did try and go back through as many of the stories from this period as possible (Amy Zonn, Kathy the Giantess Wife, etc.) and do want to touch upon as much as these as possible because I'm absolutely facsinated by these early stories and by the early community in which they were shared. Can you remember what prompted this sudden burst of creativity, and what made you go public with it?
Grildrig — Saturday 24th August 2024 at 11:32
I remember it clearly. Back in the day the chat community was something called USENET. When I got access to the internet, I discovered alt.sex.stories. That would have been the end of it, but a gent in Finland set up an anonymous mail server, the first of its kind at scale on the internet. So I had a way to post anonymously to USENET. Early versions of Janice have the blurb with that old email address ^^. I asked a question: is anybody into fantasies about giantesses. Most people who got back to me just wanted to know more. One person, whose name is lost to me, asked if I had any stories. The stuff I'd written for myself was crap. It was just there for self-gratification. It was short, and it was full of errors. Janice was an attempt to write a real story (still makes me squirm reading it today, it's not the best). But, it scratched an itch among people. My email exploded. People wanted a sequel. I was invited onto the Amazon Arena BBN with a free account. I chatted with other people, mostly artists, but some writers. and we formed our own server. The second half of 1993 was insane, and by the end of it I was burned out.
Abigail is Nancy — Saturday 24th August 2024 at 11:36
I did notice reading through the appendix to Fourth Wall that you had been in contact with at least one person surrounding giantess fantasy material before the advent of USENET, though: Kathy Castro. You don't necessarily have to give me intense details about this relationship or connection, but I'd be interested to know at least how you found each other in a pre-internet, pre-email/chat world. And if you're willing to say, the kind of things you spoke about or exchanged in your letters.
Grildrig — Saturday 24th August 2024 at 11:43
I was a horny bug back in the day. Horny enough that I sometimes wandered into the porn magazine section at bookstores (different times). In 1989 I was at a Border's [sic] bookstore thumbing through a copy of Leg Show, which sometimes had POV material in it, when I saw Kathy Castro's giantess ad at the back. It had a grainy pic of her in a striped shirt stepping on the viewer. I bought it, mustered my courage, and sent her a letter with some of my better work. She wrote back, tickled pink that somebody else was creating stuff, though I never tried to make money off of it. We shared our interests, even chatted on the phone a few times. She loved the technical challenge of trying to bring the fantasy to life, green screens, audio, etc. We chatted a lot about that. She expanded my horizons in a lot of ways, giving me a female view of the fantasy that admittedly had BDSM trappings. But our views of the fantasy were also closely aligned in a lot of ways.
Abigail is Nancy — Saturday 24th August 2024 at 11:47
I just had to fetch my copy of Deviant Desires to cross reference something for a second. Because I am very aware of Leg Show and the work of Dian Hanson (who edited it) in general, but I wasn't aware that there were actually folks into GTS who ever advertised in it. I know in Katharine Gates' interview with Ed Lundt he said he had never thought about advertising his stuff in Leg Show, but it's interesting to get confirmation that there were people into giantess stuff reading it and advertising.
Grildrig — Saturday 24th August 2024 at 11:50
I found an ad for Squish Magazine in another issue of Leg Show and wrote them a letter. That put me in contact with Dave Ashby. We chatted a lot too through email and on the phone. He knew Dian, and harassed me into writing a story, Cindy's Island, for Leg Show. He did the cover art for that story. It's not my best work, and in keeping with my desire to avoid payment, I never cashed the check. But it's a grin that I did it, and I have a copy. I also did a story for Ed Lundt. Capp was the path for that connection. Ed sent me art of a gal growing in a gym, and I wrapped words around it. Never cashed that check, either. Sadly, I don't have a copy of that.
Abigail is Nancy — Saturday 24th August 2024 at 11:52
Would you ever publish Cindy's Island? I personally feel like I would be so intrigued to read some pre-Internet size smut.
Grildrig — Saturday 24th August 2024 at 11:52
I think I finally broke down and included it on DA. Let me confirm that...
hmmm...apparently not. It's been 25 years. I should post it for a giggle...
Abigail is Nancy — Saturday 24th August 2024 at 11:55
I noticed there's a Sandy's Island. (I have the Info on the Stories page on DA tiled too, just for easy reference.) Just to check that's not the same story. But if it's not...
Grildrig — Saturday 24th August 2024 at 11:55
ha! well, that's me all over. can't remember my own stories. yes, that must be it
Abigail is Nancy — Saturday 24th August 2024 at 11:57
Do you still have any copies of any of the old magazines left? Any copies of Squish, Leg Show, or any of Ed Lundt's stuff? I don't expect you to be as devoted to archiving every little piece of size history as I am, but I'd honestly be really interested if you had any of them to hand to scan/photograph and send me later.
Grildrig — Saturday 24th August 2024 at 11:59
Yup, I still have it. If I thought it had a chance of getting through customs I'd just box it up and send it to you. Some day I'll have to toss it. I can take a crack at scanning the stuff
Abigail is Nancy — Saturday 24th August 2024 at 12:00
Oh, cool! Thanks! I have been desperate to get my hands on some of that stuff for a while now. Because even in actual kink/fetish archives, it's just impossible to find anything connected to any kind of size fantasy really.
I kinda do want to go in-depth on some of your stories, though. The ones I really personally remember loving from my years of lurking on DA were Janice & Pam: Ladies' Night, The Visit, Love Child and Bombe (Bombe in particular, honestly, as it's informed so much of my own approach to the performances I've done featuring giantess characters), and the ones I read in prep for this were IRC URC, A Day With Mitzi, Clear Shoes, The Cunt (Crush Toy), Dark Alleys, J&P: Fourth Wall, and at least a few of the Random Rants. I know in the Story Info document you split your output into a series of about four or five different "eras" depending on the bursts of creativity or burnout you've had. First of all, I'm interested to hear if there's any particular era of writing you've produced you like best or that you enjoyed writing most, and then perhaps see if you have a particular favourite story (or type of story) out of all those you've written.
Grildrig — Saturday 24th August 2024 at 12:19
As a general rule I don't do sequels. So it's only fitting that the first story I posted had one. Janice & Pam cemented my reputation as a rampage writer. I have no complaints about that ^^. The Visit was written for two friends I've met in real life, part of the IRC crowd in the late 1990's. Love Child was written for another friend, and actually came out of one of our rp flings. Bombe was the result of Tina asking me to write words around art done by Krypton that she embellished with many special effects (look for a cat in every picture, that's me in there ^^). IRC was the first story I did for other people, it's a snapshot of the #!!giantess room from about December 1996 though the spring of 1997. I interviewed everybody in it for their likes/dislikes, etc. Mitzi was the result of a character created by Cat, I love her to pieces. So much fun to write about her, when I have the right situation. Clear Shoes was for Kathy Castro. The Cunt was just me being me (the story ended up on Katelyn Brooks’ site with her name and a different by-line, but she was good enough to fix it when I pointed it out). Dark Alleys has been translated into Japanese! That still makes me laugh. As for my favs: Who Says No to the Earthquake, Blue Sky Green, Hollowed Ground, Dream Machine, and Fourth Wall are my favs, with special mention for Project Myriad and Veni Vidi Vending...
Abigail is Nancy — Saturday 24th August 2024 at 12:26
I mean, I had to read Fourth Wall as soon as I was aware of it. It's quite funny to think how self-aware and ironic both it and A Passionate Tribute (which I just stumbled across on Giantess World yesterday too) both are, and how just aggressively subversive they both are. Honestly, they're the kind of loving piss-take I wish I'd got the chance to write myself, and they really made me reconcile with the uncomfortable feeling I had in the days when I was still in the closet - as a trans woman and a giantess kinkster - about the perceived lack of agency I sometimes thought a lot of GTS characters ironically had. I do want to touch upon some of the tropes and stylistic choices common to your writing - because again, it has been massively influential on me as a writer - but I would just like to ask a little bit more about #!!giantess as well. As someone who was a literal newborn when IRC URC came out. What was that space actually like back then? Who were the people who populated that board, and how much was there beyond what was covered in IRC URC?
Grildrig — Saturday 24th August 2024 at 12:36
The #!!giantess room began in late 1995 or early 1996 as a place for people to trade material. As you might imagine, finding new content was really hard. Also, as you might imagine, it was all guys. Then a gal named Caylea showed up one day and played the part of a giantess. Minds blown. This was the NBC/CBS/ABC time for the internet. Very few channels, a lot of people, a lot of visitors passing in and out. Other women chanced by, were welcomed and made a home there. I actually visited early on, but the wall of text blew me away, and I retreated. I tried again in December 1996. I lurked and I watched for a couple of weeks until somebody noticed my nick (I am always grildrig anywhere I go, or sgrildrig, if I screw up and forget my password >.<). They asked if I was the guy who wrote stories. I said yes, and I was promptly dragged out of lurk mode. It was a steep learning curve. "what the hell does lol mean, and why do people say it when I make jokes?" Ah, the joys of being a newbie. I made friends with one of the gals, Lorilei. I asked her later why she decided to talk to me when there were so many others in the room, her curt answer, "you never climbed my leg". People were more polite back then, but leg climbing has always been a thing for smols. It was a community, and I went berserk. Within a month I did my first 24 hour stint online. Madness. But it was fun, and I made a lot of friends, and a lot of us met in real life.
Abigail is Nancy — Saturday 24th August 2024 at 12:40
Honestly, that's always been a bit of a curiosity for me: the presence of women within size/GTS space. While there are a hell of a lot of women, and queer/trans folks within size space now, and a lot of the most prominent size community spaces are in fact run by them (thinking of the impact folks like Tina and Katelyn Brooks have had over the years, or the fact that SizeCon is run by a queer Latina woman), I've always been curious as to whether, or to what extent, women were part of those early communities. Or alternatively, whether they lived up to the stereotype common to a lot of online niche sex spaces as just being entirely composed of straight, quote-unquote "weird" men.
Grildrig — Saturday 24th August 2024 at 12:47
It was common back then for a people to wander into the room and ask, "what's this all about?" I had a lot of fun answering that question, and learned to do it in ways that didn't send folks screaming back into the ether. Since I met folks face-to-face I can testify that real women visited ^^. I can also confirm that the female experience was very different. Only once did I pop onto IRC as a female (took the name Janice). My app lit up with a dozen private messages. I ran screaming back into the ether, and never did that again. I struggled talking to two people at once. I knew gals who would run as many as six rp sessions at the same time. When I asked how the hell that was possible, I was told "they always want the same thing, usually feet". Of course, sooner or later, they'd tire of the whole thing and scoot. Drama eventually split the room, and when Yahoo Groups showed up, #!!giantess faded away...
Abigail is Nancy — Saturday 24th August 2024 at 12:48
Now you mention it, where did the names "Janice" and "Pam" first come from? Is there a story behind them, or were they just random?
Grildrig — Saturday 24th August 2024 at 12:52
Totally random. In fact, except for instances where I've written a story for a friend, and they wanted their real name in there, I avoid using names of people I know. I shy away from imposing my fantasy on anyone, even just by name, and cringe at the idea of doing a story featuring a celebrity, which I've been asked to do many times.
Abigail is Nancy — Saturday 24th August 2024 at 12:54
I mean, there's ethical issues in using anyone's real name (or body, in artworks/collages) for anything smutty, even if they're a public figure. Even worse if they're not one. It's genuinely triggering to me when people use real-life tall women as the basis of their fantasies...
But anyway. I feel like there's a lot of things common to a lot of your writing I want to touch upon, and the first one is the viscosity and viscerality with which you describe the giantess body, and all the various fluids and secretions associated with it. The graphic, almost overwhelmingly abject depictions of the giantess' body in the middle of rampages or sexual acts has always been the thing I've appreciated most about your work. I know it's informed my work enormously as I've tried to make the giantess' body into a kind of weapon of mass destruction in my performance stuff. I would really like to hear about your use of language to describe the giantess body and sexuality at size, in particular about your descriptions of bodily fluids. And your wonderful insistence upon using the word "cunt" where other erotic authors would dance around it.
Grildrig — Saturday 24th August 2024 at 13:10
Funny story. When I first started writing I thought 'orgasm' was a typo. And so there were a lot of 'organisms' in my first stories. Kathy was the one who cemented for me to the idea of her vulva being a "hairy monster", with notions of drowning a tiny in juices, or using kegels to crush their bodies. I had been inching in that direction in my own fantasies, but jumped in whole hog after that. Ashby had similar ideas. However, they were both more in the BDSM arena. I like the seductive, pleasurable aspect of it. A giantess (or a giant) dominates tiny people without restraints, just using their hands, feet, lips, genitals. It can be gentle. It can be violent. I'm a huge fan of cunnilingus. I flinch when I see writers describing secretions as foul. To me, it's nectar, ambrosia. It's arousal in liquid form. and it can be used to cover tiny people to make them fun and slippery, or to smirk at their feeble struggles as they drown in it. As for "cunt". It's a harsher word in America than the UK. I tend to use it closer to the climax of a story, when inhibitions are at their lowest and pleasure is peaking. One doesn't want to overuse a good taboo word. Use it just enough, unless it's a Janice story, then all bets are off... ^^
Abigail is Nancy — Saturday 24th August 2024 at 13:15
I like to try and find connections between the creations of size writers/artists and artists who produce works in other more "respected" art forms or spaces, as a way of further legitimising our creations as pieces of cultural production. When I'm done with you here, I might send you a screenshot of writer Monique Wittig's 1974 piece The Lesbian Body, as it's full of all these gruesome, abject depictions of the female body designed to subvert the idea of women's bodies as "pure" or "clean." Merging the way she describes female bodies with the way you describe the viscous seepages of vaginal fluids through the cracked windows of skyscrapers, or the twisting metal of planes or cruise ships, is basically how I came to my current practice of describing or portraying giantess bodies.
And then there is the humour in some of your work. In the Mitzi and Janice & Pam stories in particular. How did that side of your storytelling style evolve - as much as it doesn't appear as often as the more violent and graphic side of your output.
Grildrig — Saturday 24th August 2024 at 13:24
I remember many discussions over the years about the fantasy, and for those new to it, how it broadened their horizons, and led them to better understand people in general. Which is why I find it hilarious (and disturbing) when somebody in size change puts down some aspect of the fantasy, or somebody else's kinks. When I wrote Mitzi, some people were incensed (Cat imagined her that way, I didn't invent it). "How dare you make fun of a giantess!" Well, hell, that only prompted me to do more of that sort of thing. I think it's important (and fun) to take the piss out of one's own kinks. And lord knows, there's a ton of stuff to laugh at when it comes to size change. The randomrants pretty much live on that notion. Mitzi and Earthquake are two stories that tap into my love of humor in the fantasy. Fourth Wall had to be funny, and has probably the most self-deprecating humor in the bibliography. One more detail. The violent stories can be raw and sexy. The gentle stories need something to make them interesting. Humor is my go to. I'll add a shout out for Veni Vidi Vending. It's short, and it has it's [sic] own flavor of humor...
Abigail is Nancy — Saturday 24th August 2024 at 13:27
I definitely get that there's a lot to laugh at in terms of size fantasies. I've got a lot of mileage out of being self-aware about my own kinks in front of outsiders. And you are right - it makes people more receptive to it.
When you wrote Fourth Wall, did you have to go back and do a lot of digging through past work to pull out the tropes, or was it all just there? One thing I did notice was you really taking the piss out of and overanalysing your habit of switching up perspectives and picking out "voices from the crowd." I really want to talk about the importance of that common factor in your rampage stories too. Why did that emerge as a common feature of your stories?
Grildrig — Saturday 24th August 2024 at 13:42
I made fun of that somewhere. I had to reread the Janice stories. (she's a blonde, I'm almost positive she's a blonde!). As for other aspects, I'm always aware of them at some level. Kathy Castro read Janice and said. "let me explain women's bodies to you, and why 44DD breasts are a terrible idea." So I had to mock myself over that one. Other female friends of mine have piled onto me about that one too ^^. The bit about SPEAKING IN CAPS was discussed on the furry sites right around the time I decided to abandon it. I got that habit from Kathy's writing ^^. It was a lark finding an excuse to bring it back. As for switching POVs, I feel that's critical in size change stories. We're trying to describe the colossal size of a person. There's no reason to hold back. Show it from their point of view and that of the tiny people around them. That actually goes hand-in-hand with a popular image I shared with many friends. The idea of a giantess dwindling down and strolling through a city she's just ravaged. Looking into her footprints, seeing what she's done to the skyscrapers. If the words cause a chill to run down the spine with a twinge of horny, they're capturing the moment. Same with interactions. It's one thing for people on a plane to hear the voice of a giantess pounding through the fuselage. It's another for her to have told the control tower to broadcast the pilot's radio on the PA so she can hear the screaming passengers. Interaction is good... ^^
Abigail is Nancy — Saturday 24th August 2024 at 13:46
I've honestly been so anxious to hear your perspective on the "crowd voices" thing. Because it's honestly been something I've never really been too hot on. But I think since reading back through your catalogue in preparation for this, I've acquired more of an appreciation for it. And the idea of a giantess exploring her own devastation from a regular perspective is so interesting. Diving deep into the perspective-switching this was the thing that actually prompted me to start conceiving of my first attempt at a "smut-for-smut's-sake" story, which I'm going to start writing now I actually have a free weekend.
And honestly, your attempt to figure out bra sizing wasn't the worst I've ever seen from size space lol!
I also would just like to touch on some more contemporary connections of yours to other size artists/writers. Particularly Tina, Angel, and Aphrodite (the latter of whom credited you entirely for keeping her in size space and getting her to share her creative work when I interviewed her). How did you first encounter each of them? How long did it take for you to foster collaborations?
Grildrig — Saturday 24th August 2024 at 14:02
In all cases I get to know the people behind the names. That's the real win. When we chat, it can be about anything, sometimes with size change sprinkled in. I think I've known Angel the longest. I love her drawing style, she has mad skills. It was a ton of fun seeing her images for Fourth Wall. We connected when we found we both had an appreciation for giant couples. For her, that's evolved more into an interest in giants (for example, her awesome Giantlands comic). We chatted on Yahoo messenger a lot in early days. I've known Aphrodite for more than a decade. I first met her on the Giantess City chat. Getting to know her was a blast. She was part shy, part bold, and I did everything I could to encourage her boldness, because she has such a fun wit and vivid imagination. When she posted Yao-Jing, it was like the firing of a racer's pistol, leading to her sharing more of her work. I love her confidence in herself. Tina I met last. She approached me, and pitched the idea for Bombe. That was a different experience for me, because she insists on a measure of poetry in her creations. I've done that in the past, but not to the extent I did for that story. She's a force of nature, and reminds me of Kathy in some ways, keen to explore what's possible, and eager to share what she's learned to elevate others. I'm currently 18+ months into working on the sequel to Bombe (by no means is this my slowest effort). When it's done, and with her art, it'll be epic...
Abigail is Nancy — Saturday 24th August 2024 at 14:03
I cannot wait for the Bombe sequel! I'm actually supposed to be interviewing Tina immediately after this, and I'm extremely curious to see how it's going to go.
How has the community changed from your perspective through all the shifts between spaces? From alt.sex.stories, through IRC, through spaces like Giantess City (which I've still been a little anxious to explore, as what little of it I've seen still triggers the little bits of shame that are left) and on to DA and Discord servers? Is there anything that's stayed the same too?
Grildrig — Saturday 24th August 2024 at 14:13
The fantasy stays the same. Still the gentle vs non-gentle arguments. Growth vs shrinking. Giantess vs giant. That'll go on forever. When I started there was an actual Community (with the big C). Sure, there were some offshoots, but #!!giantess and the Giantess Shrine were the big players. It was easy to find people and share content, and see all the variations in size change in one place. That broke in the early 2000's, with people scattering into their own little tribal groups. It's unlikely, but not impossible we'll ever get it back, and -- inevitably -- when sites like giantesscity and sizechangebooru fold up, they'll take a huge swath of content with them into the void. Sites like twitter just can't and never will provide the same experience. I did for a while wonder if Second Life would be a new gathering spot. It's faded now. But I suspect that if a good real-time VR experience for size change (that's free, good luck with that) appears, there could be a swarm of people all congregating in one spot again. And that would be cool...
Abigail is Nancy — Saturday 24th August 2024 at 14:14
This is a big part of why I'm so keen on chronicling the size community and its cultural production. Because of how ephemeral size space online can be.
I will also say that a lot of the "arguments" you mention have driven my work too. In particular, trying to find terminology that unites and reconciles the SFW and NSFW aspects of size space, which I've found to be a bit of a divide in terms of community spaces and a source of antagonism. Ultimately, though, a lot of the kinkier folks I've spoken to have described "size" as being either far deeper than just "kink" or something sexual, and a lot of the folks on the more SFW side do perceive at least a small element of the erotic about their fantasies.
I think I may be beginning to exhaust my questions for you at this point. Is there anything you think I haven't brought up yet that you think it might be valuable to touch upon?
Grildrig — Saturday 24th August 2024 at 14:22
Just a quick blurb on that last comment. Check out the 1977 Powers of Ten video, if you've never seen it before. One aspect of size change that's wrapped around my soul is the scientific aspect of size. How we live roughly in the middle of the very small and the very large. How utterly colossal the universe is, and yet, at least observationally, it's finite at the largest and smallest scales. While I wouldn't say that size change is a lifestyle for me. It does inform a lot of how I view the world. A skyscraper can be huge and tiny at the same time... ^^ ...I think that's a good break point for me.
Abigail is Nancy — Saturday 24th August 2024 at 14:23
I have put a lot of thought into that last point! How on a universal scale, there is really no difference between the amount of "space" occupied by even the largest giantesses that usually feature in rampage fantasies, and ordinary humans.
Grildrig — Saturday 24th August 2024 at 14:24
yup. as Douglas Adams said about the Total Perspective Vortex: an invisible dot on an invisible dot, with a sign saying, 'you are here'...
(Blue Sky Green picks on that)
Abigail is Nancy — Saturday 24th August 2024 at 14:26
I would say that size is a massive part of my life, on the contrary. (Pardon the pun!) I literally wrote an inaugural blog post on my website recently describing the fact that "giantess" has basically become my gender identity at this point, as size has informed so much of how I interact with the world. And I do genuinely consider "coming out as a giantess" to be on par with my coming out as trans or unmasking my autism. But that's just me!
Grildrig — Saturday 24th August 2024 at 14:26
every persons take is unique. which is good!
Abigail is Nancy — Saturday 24th August 2024 at 14:27
Thank you!
And thank you for participating in this series of research conversations, too.
Grildrig — Saturday 24th August 2024 at 14:27
Thanks for the chat. It was fun ^^
Abigail is Nancy — Saturday 24th August 2024 at 14:29
In terms of next steps: as this has just been a Discord DM exchange, I will probably have it up on my website by the end of the day. I am also in the process of archiving everything from these exchanges so that at the end of the project this is all in aid of - my huge creative research project into size space, Nancy//the World - I can archive everything properly with a third-party research institution here in London.
But again, I have literally 30 mins to prep to talk to Tina, so I might leave you here. If you have any questions for me, please let me know and I'll get back to them when I can!
Grildrig — Saturday 24th August 2024 at 14:31
Sounds good. And same for you. If you need any more info, let me know. And feel free to harass me about scanning stuff. I'll need a poke to remember to do it. Say 'hi' to Tina for me!